Twitter Digest for for 2010-06-27
- “God always shows up in the most God-forsaken places.” – Alan Roxburgh #
- upgrading my iPod Touch to iOS4 – with some trepidation… #
- iOS4 update successful and looking good – just trying to fathom the multi-tasking… #
- it's only 11 o'clock and I'm already about three hours behind! How did that happen? #
- RT @babyrew: For a while now I've been able to roll to the side, turn around & move backwards. I've now successfully achieved forward motion #
- in London today for a seminar with Richard Passmore at LICC, and the launch of StreetSpace. Then a quick coffee/catch-up with a friend. #
- excellent seminar exploring mission among young people. Now 2hrs of theological reflection and sermon prep. Not watching the footie. #
- thoroughly enjoyed the tube in rush hour on a hot day; now sweating on the train waiting for the return to Bletchley and straight to Amicus. #
- you can't beat the unmistakable aroma of cabbage lingering long after the lunch club have packed up and left… #
- sermon prep + heat + headache = progress / (stress + frustration) #
- will be mostly enjoying a day off today – before the final bits of service prep tonight. #
- ==========<() zzzzzzzzzz (in honour of a fantastic achievement by Ghana!) #
- have no idea why everyone is suprised by the England Team's poor performance – why did anyone expect anything different? #
Twitter Digest for for 2010-06-20
- just got my head around the new Vetting & Barring Scheme and then the new government say they're expecting to scale it back – frustrating! #
- best way to start a Deacon's meeting? with my gorgeous little boy goig to sleep on my chest before I leave, of course… #
- RT @alanhirsch: The way to the universal is thru the particular. The best way to love the world is to love your neighbor ~ @lensweet #
- All-age worship: 'celebrating difference while striving for unity' – Nick Harding – Top Tips for All-Age Worship #
- Vetting & Barring Scheme put on hold pending review & scaling back – BUT legislation introduced in Oct 2009 still in effect: isa-gov.org.uk #
- off to Ikea for the afternoon to read Bauckham – 'Jesus & the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony' – lots of coffee needed! #
- RT @BrianCHouston: Give me a little church "filled" with awesome people, over a huge church "full" of itself every time! #
- 'all history is an inextricable combination of fact and interpretation; the empirically observable and the intuited or constructed meaning' #
- 'My peace is gone, my heart is heavy.' – Johann Wolfgang von Goethe // know the feeling well… #
- mostly blasting through misc. admin whilst listening to 'The Best of Simple Minds' – I'd forgotten how good they were… (don't judge me!) #
- that's Simple Minds done – now to watch Disney/Pixar's 'Up!' – research for work you understand… #
- inbox down to 45 unread, and now all fits on one page for the first time in ages – must be time for bed! #
- settling down to another afternoon's study with Jesus and the Eyewitnesses , and about 6 cups of coffee! #
- off to join Friday Frenzy for the England match. Looking forward to seeing everyone again – not so bothered about the footie ;0) #
- 'we want to stay in this tournament until the later stages' Gerrard; such a lack of ambition from the England Captain – muppet! #
- got a whole weekend off – down to Andover to celebrate a birthday and Father's day (my first!) #
- quote of the day: 'simulating a wet bear is especially complex' – @WiredUK article about Pixar's Toy Story 3 #
- 'Heinz? That's what beans are made of…' – Charlie, aged 11 #
- back in MK after a great weekend of birthday celebrations, meals & a BBQ & lovely presents from my little boy. Always sad to leave Andover. #
Twitter Digest for for 2010-06-20
- just got my head around the new Vetting & Barring Scheme and then the new government say they're expecting to scale it back – frustrating! #
- best way to start a Deacon's meeting? with my gorgeous little boy goig to sleep on my chest before I leave, of course… #
- RT @alanhirsch: The way to the universal is thru the particular. The best way to love the world is to love your neighbor ~ @lensweet #
- All-age worship: 'celebrating difference while striving for unity' – Nick Harding – Top Tips for All-Age Worship #
- Vetting & Barring Scheme put on hold pending review & scaling back – BUT legislation introduced in Oct 2009 still in effect: isa-gov.org.uk #
- off to Ikea for the afternoon to read Bauckham – 'Jesus & the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony' – lots of coffee needed! #
- RT @BrianCHouston: Give me a little church "filled" with awesome people, over a huge church "full" of itself every time! #
- 'all history is an inextricable combination of fact and interpretation; the empirically observable and the intuited or constructed meaning' #
- 'My peace is gone, my heart is heavy.' – Johann Wolfgang von Goethe // know the feeling well… #
- mostly blasting through misc. admin whilst listening to 'The Best of Simple Minds' – I'd forgotten how good they were… (don't judge me!) #
- that's Simple Minds done – now to watch Disney/Pixar's 'Up!' – research for work you understand… #
- inbox down to 45 unread, and now all fits on one page for the first time in ages – must be time for bed! #
- settling down to another afternoon's study with Jesus and the Eyewitnesses , and about 6 cups of coffee! #
- off to join Friday Frenzy for the England match. Looking forward to seeing everyone again – not so bothered about the footie ;0) #
- 'we want to stay in this tournament until the later stages' Gerrard; such a lack of ambition from the England Captain – muppet! #
- got a whole weekend off – down to Andover to celebrate a birthday and Father's day (my first!) #
- quote of the day: 'simulating a wet bear is especially complex' – @WiredUK article about Pixar's Toy Story 3 #
- 'Heinz? That's what beans are made of…' – Charlie, aged 11 #
- back in MK after a great weekend of birthday celebrations, meals & a BBQ & lovely presents from my little boy. Always sad to leave Andover. #
Twitter Digest for for 2010-06-13
- Blog post: ‘Segregated for Worship’ – join the conversation here http://easyrew.com/?p=731 #
- Blog post: ‘Encouraging Children to Worship’ – join the conversation here http://easyrew.com/?p=823 #
- thought I’d lost my wallet – horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. Thankfully I was wrong – I’d just misplaced it after badminton. #
- reminiscing: reading old cards from the early days of my romance with Tracy – and practically wetting myself with laughter – bless her! x #
- Check out StreetBank: community lending, borrowing & giving away scheme – http://www.streetbank.com/in_a_nutshell – sign up! #
- RT @RickWarren: A church’s health is measured by its sending capacity, not seating capacity: How many mobilized for our Mission? Mt28:19-20 #
- Completed an irregular run. 354 (kcal) Distance 2.38 mi. Duration 00:20:00 #
- ‘don’t be afraid to daydream, it may turn out to be the smartest thing you’ve done all year.’ – Bradley J. Moore #
- RT @RickWarren: Study the STOPS of Jesus, not just his step -the interruptions he allowed. Every healing was an interruption! R U flexible? #
- inbox down to 50 (phew!) but to-do list increasing conversely – spending the morning exploring the Bible with Year 5 at Holne Chase School. #
- ‘the flypaper of an unfocused mind may trap new ideas & unexpected associations more effectively than methodical reasoning’ -Kalina Cristoff #
- RT @XIANITY: BOOKS: In ‘The Shack 2: Back to the Woodshed’, the Trinity is further explained as solid-liquid-gas and a 3-leaf clover. #
- Fresh on easyrew.com: ‘Options for Worship’ (series continued) Join the conversation at http://easyrew.com/?p=852 #
- ‘Chinese owners dye pets to look like wild animals’: http://bit.ly/aznJiQ // bizarre! #
- completed disappointingly slow 2.5 mile run – legs still tired from last one & an ambitious overtaking manouvre. #
- RT @UNTAMEDbook 1 of the reasons 4 our current lack of hospitality 2 the stranger lies in the modern redefinition of “family” #
- thinking about giving up Facebook & Twitter until the end of the World Cup – sick of it already! #
- can’t beat the scent of asparagus in the morning ;o) #
- Join the ongoing conversation at easyrew.com: ‘Including Children & Young People in Worship’ – http://easyrew.com/?p=729 #
This is part four of the series looking at the inclusion of Children & Young People in Worship – if you haven’t read the other posts (intro, 1, 2, 3), I’d encourage you to do so before you continue. this time taking a bit of a step back and considering the wider issue.
Having critiqued our current practice at Spurgeons, and considered some of the relevant issues and theology, I believe there are three possible options we might consider taking in our context (with a little adaptation, they may be relevant for others too).
Some might argue that I should consider the implications of any change before presenting and choosing an option. I disagree. Too often in my experience we discount options/actions because their implications are too hard/involved/expensive. We focus too much on practicalities (and why we shouldn’t do something) and not enough on what we believe is the right action to take. I think we should work out the right thing to do, and only then work to achieve it. I am fully aware that each option presented below will require work in order to implement them (much of which will probably fall to me), but I don’t want to allow that to deter me from taking the right action, simply because it involves more work.
And so to the options:
Option One
- fine tune the status quo
- retain the present slot
- refocus it to engage 5-16 year olds
- produce theme/series
- each week builds on the last
- provide guidelines to assist those preparing to lead it
- assess each talk and feedback to volunteer presenters
- ensure appropriate vocabulary for first part of the service
- ensure prayers are suitable for all (length/content/style)
- maintain appropriate pace to keep young ones engaged
Option Two
- change the nature of the ‘family time’ at the start of the service
- aim for all-age worship each week, prior to Junior Church groups
- introduce range of new songs suitable for children & young people
- allowing space for worship activities
- creative prayer, actions & movement
- engaging multiple senses: sight, sound, taste, touch, smell
- draw the children and young people into worship:
- ‘tell the next generation of God’s power & the wonders he has done’ – Psalm 78:4
Option Three
- young people join together (separate from adults) and have their own worship time
- similar approach to option two, but without the danger of alienating the adults
Before I reveal my personal view, let me analyse the options a little first.
Option One would be an improvement on where we are now:
- providing clarity for those delivering the talk and some guidelines to assist in preparation
- helpful feedback will ensure both consistent quality and encouragement/development to volunteers
- theme for series will provide direction for volunteers, assist with their preparation, whilst also ensuring progression of the teaching
- although aimed at children and young people, this would also be accessible and helpful to new Christians of any age
- the focus on appropriate vocabulary will assist in making the service more accessible
- positive:
- will build on the foundation we already have
- negative:
- doesn’t specifically address the need to encourage children to worship
Option Two would provide a marked change (gasp! change?!) and involve a great deal of work, both in implementation and on an ongoing basis:
- form a team to plan & lead worship each week
- need to invest in appropriate worship resources and developing team skills
- introducing the changes to the congregation
- being sure to communicate the reasons well (both theological & practical)
- weekly task of planning the worship time
- positive:
- enables children and young people to join the adults and fully participate in worship, following their example and learning from them
- the service will be more suitable for families
- negative:
- there is a danger of alienating the adults (to be discussed further in a future post)
Option Three is a radical step but I fear it may be a step too far, offering some of the benefits of Option Two whilst avoiding the main danger, but also introducing a significant problem:
- positive:
- makes worship more accessible to children and young people
- encourages them to participate more fully and express their worship
- the focus of children’s worship may make the church more appealing to families
- by separating the children from the adults you don’t run the risk of alienating adults by ‘dumbing down’ the worship time
- negative:
- children & adults don’t worship together
- children need to witness adults worshipping
- adults should model worship (in life and in services)
- children & adults don’t worship together
Conclusion
Having considered at length the options outlined above, I believe that we should strive toward Option Two, effectively transforming the worship time at the start of our service. I will have my work cut out in order to present the options and convince our fellowship that this is the right option for us, and, more importantly, that we can achieve it. If we agree that this is the way forward, the really hard work will begin when we attempt to implement it.
The Easy Path?
I’ve been leading our ‘family services’ for the last six years, and understand just how hard it is to change the format and atmosphere of a service. Whilst the content of those services has been aimed largely at the young people, often they have reverted to our usual style and format. Preparing services which engage young people requires more work than a regular service (even more so to engage children too!) but as I’ve said, that’s no reason not to do it if you believe it’s the right thing to do. If ‘hard work’ was a valid excuse, I doubt we’d bother with services at all. The time and effort we invest in preparing our services must be proportionate to the value we believe they have. If we believe it’s important to engage adults in worship, we put in the work on a weekly basis. That fact that we don’t currently expend any effort to engage our young people in worship on a weekly basis reveals how little value we ascribe to their worship.
I’d love to hear your views on the options above and the brief analysis of them. Do you have particular experience of them which would be of interest. Please keep the conversation going in the comments below.
The final couple of posts in the series will probably focus on the ‘holy grail’ or all age worship and good practice which will make implementing the change a success (mostly theoretical).
This is part three of the series looking at the inclusion of Children & Young People in Worship – this time taking a bit of a step back and considering the wider issue. [Image courtesy of BobWeasel]
Having explored the issue of the children’s talk a little and critiqued our current practice, I want to suggest that perhaps we could do away with the slot completely. At Spurgeon Baptist Church we currently have a very tokenistic approach to the involvement of children and young people in our worship: they are permitted/expected to collect the offering and (usually) expected to engage with the Children’s slot. Even assuming that we do the Children’s slot well, I can’t help but think there’s more to involving and engaging the young people during the first part of the service than that. As I’ve been reflecting on this area the message I’ve sensed most strongly is that whatever else we do for young people in our services (Children’s talk, junior church,etc) we must be encouraging them to worship God (see Matt 21:16). Sorry if that sounds too obvious – but I don’t think it’s something we do well, if at all, on a Sunday morning.
Some may argue that our service is already accessible to most ages, if they choose to engage. At times I think that’s a fair assumption – but only from an adult perspective. But if we were able to see the service through the eyes of a child/young person I think we’d come to a different conclusion, and we’d do well to heed Jesus words when he said: ‘Let the little children hcome to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven’ Matthew 19:14
So what is it about our services which hinders children & young people from worshipping God? At present the first part of the service is aimed at the adults with the the token kid’s bits tacked on. Often the language we use goes above the heads of the children & young people (and some of the adults too!); not specifically religious language, but language in general. This particularly applies to prayers, which are often long-winded, and unnecessarily wordy (see Matt 6:7). In our Church prayers are always led from the front – with no opportunity or encouragement for others to pray (I imagine this is an issue for young and old alike). The songs are hardly appealing to the young people, and certainly not the children. We read scripture which is relevant to the sermon, but rarely to the songs we’re singing or the children’s talk. We collect the offering, during which the service stops and everyone waits for the bags to be returned to the front – this actively engages only four young people, whilst the rest sit bored and fidgeting – but we feel good about ourselves because ‘the young people collect the offering’. (Aside: when so many are now giving via standing order, and therefore probably half the church simply pass the bag along with putting anything in, what message are we giving to the young people who collect the offering? That half the Church don’t give financially? That isn’t likely to lead to a healthy attitude to giving as they grow up! Rant over…)
What message are we sending about God when our church’s corporate worship excludes children & young people? Church immediately becomes a time when they don’t need to engage – perpetuating the myth of church as ‘boring’ (or perhaps they’re right {gasp} and it’s not a myth!). We run the risk of alienating them from attending Church – if their experience of worship is that it’s ‘for someone else’, they’re likely to vote with their feet as soon as they’re permitted to.
A slight aside to consider one aspect of all ages worshipping together:
In Matthew 21, as Jesus was entering Jerusalem we read that people welcomed him with shouts of ‘Hosanna to the Son of David…’, and the whole city was stirred up with people asking ‘who is this?’. This is a passage which we’re probably familiar with, as is the story which follows of Jesus cleansing the temple of money-changers and market traders. But read to the end of that particular passage and I believe we see a powerful side-effect of children witnessing adults worshipping. The Chief Priests and Scribes saw the amazing things Jesus was doing, healing the blind and the lame, and they noted the children crying out in the temple: ‘Hosanna to the Son of David!’. Whether or not these were the children of those who’d been worshipping Jesus on His way into Jerusalem is almost irrelevant. But it would appear that they witnessed their worship and are now copying them. You might question whether it was mindless repetition, but I don’t think the text supports that (‘crying out’ in the temple implies passion). These children had experienced the power of Jesus for themselves – they were present in the temple as he healed the blind and the lame, and their response was one of awe and wonder which led them to worship him, using a form of words they’d seen employed by others. The whole city was stirred up and people everywhere were asking ‘who is this?’. Then as they came to know the answer, they too worshipped Him, in ways they’d seen modelled by others.
It is vital for us to share the message of Jesus – but we mustn’t stop there. As others come to hear the message and meet Jesus for themselves (however simply) we must encourage them to worship. Part of that encouragement must be modelling worship well. That’s not to imply that we must all worship in the same way – but we all have to start somewhere. When we learn to speak we learn very simple words and sentences, often just repeating the phrases others say to us, and gradually as we grow in our ability and confidence we learn to form our own sentences. So it must be with our worship – and the worship of our children & young people.
I believe a different approach to the start of our service is called for. Whilst the children’s talk has its place, and with a little effort could be far more effective, the thing which is lacking from our ministry with children on a Sunday morning is not ‘teaching’ but ‘worshipping’. At present they attend the service and are given the choice of worshipping in a way which is aimed at adults, or opting out. Not only does Jesus say (quoting from Psalms) that the Lord ordains praise from the lips of children (Matt 21:16) but that the things of the Kingdom will be revealed to children (Matt 11:25). Not only do we have a fantastic Gospel to teach the children & young people with whom we have fellowship – we have a great deal to learn from them too! As we all worship together, not only can they learn from us, be we can also learn from them.
Questions:
- does this resonate with your experience?
- how would you critique this view?
- what other scriptural examples would you use to argue in favour of all-age worship?







